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While I have heard that taking special herbs can prevent the Swine Flu, I have also read that having a good immune system can make the Swine Flu flourish inside of you.
Someone please debunk this for the sake of my sanity?

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I have a response....   Many healthy people seem to have contracted this virus, which in my view was definitely concocted in a laboratory.   I ask that anyone who does not believe this do a search for Baxter Pharma Int.  All news agencies in the world, except for the ones in the US have reported that Baxter sent out tainted drugs with both the human and the live avian flu virus.  There is no way a biochemical lab could have made a mistake like this.  They got caught! They sent these drugs to 18 different countries.  They said,  OOps!. Sorry,...  I am not saying that Baxter did this.  But this happened just 4 months ago!  And the strain now out is a combo of many strains that had to be produced in a lab.   I have not heard if they stopped all shipments of this tainted drug.  But,... It shows that it can be done.  They caught this mistake by accident.      Lets say that this company, or any other pharma company made another mistake,  and it got to market,   in multiple countries,  .....and lets say they injected it into healthy humans who trust their doctors,,,,   ...    This would explain why some of the first people to contract this were healthy humans.   After a short time, only unhealthy people will contract it from them.   This whole thing smells...    And on CNN today,   April 29th,  it was reported that Baxter and the CDC/HHs are working together to find a cure!!!!

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I don't doubt this at all, and this sort of thing, along with the fact that I believe they don't do your body any good, is why I stay away from most drugs and optional vaccinations. Better to let my own body handle what may come that rely on drugs to do it for me.

It does seem though, that there is some merit to the theory that people with good immune systems may be at risk for death just as much as those with weaker immune systems, but I'm not sure if this holds true for the current strains of the flu going around the media. I doubt this is true for everyone, but it seems that the body in some cases may mimic an allergic reaction to the disease and end up killing the person with respiratory inflammation. Still though, I wouldn't say that if you have a good immune system that this is going to happen to you. You still have a better chance of fighting off an infection if your immune system is healthy, and from what I read, the reaction may be treated like an allergic reaction. I very well could be wrong about this, because most sources are only saying that it "uses your immune system to attack you" and that doesn't give me much to go on since I'm only an EMT.

-- Edited by wolvendeer on Wednesday 29th of April 2009 09:48:41 PM

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I'd imagine that having a good immune system would lower your chances of getting the flu.
I have read that boosting your immune system then baking off if you get the flu is beneficial.

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As crazy as it sounds...this virus does result in those with the highest immune systems getting hit the hardest. With this fluhe immune system starts to attack itself. It is called a Cytokine Storm (just google it and you'll find lots of info.) From what I've read, you need your immune system to be strong, but not too strong (whatever that means:)) and you need to have lots of antiviral foods/supplements/herbals on hand combined with anti-inflammitories in the case you do start to come down with something. Garlic, Onions, Fresh Ginger, Red Peppers, Green Tea, Tumeric Powder, Olive Leaf Extract, Oil of Oregano, Astragalus, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, Echinacia, Beta Gluten, Cats Claw, Zinc Piccolate (#1 in fighting the flu), Cordyceos, Spirulina, Vitamin A (both pure Vitamin A and Beta Carotene from algae/food form) etc. The fact that the flu mainly killed healthy young aduts in Mexico is one of the reasons it is so worrisome; the last virus to do this was the flu of 1918 when millions died. This characteristic alone tells us that this is bad juju.

BTW...the whole Baxter thing is just rediculous! I can't believe that THEY are the ones getting the contract for the vaccines..OH wait-yes I can!



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Hello all! I am new to this forum. Am from Alaska. I have been all over this site trying to figure out how to post in my state, but to no avail! Could some one please direct/instruct me on how to get a post on here. Should something come up that is serious I would not know how to get it out to all who would be concerned, which is a lot I am sure! I know we are almost the furthest away from this debacle of great concern, but with an enemy like this we have to know at all points what is going on and what to do about it. So, my request is simple; how do I post in this site and how do I post in my state of Alaska??? Thanks for any help by any one. Peace and hope be with us all!!!

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Just to answer the original question....

The reason people with a healthy immune system are affected more is because the immune response is sent into overdrive. In critical care terms this is known as "cytokine storm" and it happens when the immune response to a virus or bacteria is disproportionate to the infecting agent. This doesn't happen with those immune systems which are underpar because they cannot instigate the "cytokine storm". The cytokine storm is a series of events which occur in the body which shut down all the major organs (think of a major overactive allergic response) and gradually cause death. This can happen within 2-48 hours of contracting the infective agent. That's why it's affecting younger, healthier people.


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